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J_MTN
08-21-2015, 08:48 PM
Is there any indicator when the Crusher debuff is applied to an enemy? I've been using it for awhile and haven't been able to see one..

SirFizzyWo
08-23-2015, 02:13 AM
im pretty sure there isnt one. definately SHOULD be one though. would be a nice QOL change.

Devante Pangowish
08-25-2015, 07:30 AM
There is an indictation, when you do below 70 Damage a small red Icon is shown beside it I'm pretty sure and I use glitter runner to maximize my damage with it after I apply the effect

J_MTN
08-27-2015, 07:25 PM
There is an indictation, when you do below 70 Damage a small red Icon is shown beside it I'm pretty sure and I use glitter runner to maximize my damage with it after I apply the effect

What champion do you use crusher on?

Devante Pangowish
08-30-2015, 01:03 AM
I used it on my hybrid-support Khan but it's an overall good debuffer for the hard people to kill if you want to trade out machine-gun

J_MTN
08-30-2015, 07:52 AM
I used it on my hybrid-support Khan but it's an overall good debuffer for the hard people to kill if you want to trade out machine-gun

Khan does seem like a decent champ to be running crusher. The only problem is that I think it is better served on a ranged champion, which is why I chose xavilla. Although, the crusher debuff followed up by salvage strike sounds painful. And because it is khan, you can skip girded and run speed drain or heavy suit. Sounds like a pretty decent utility build, IMO.

In my ideal vision of TGT, you would already have a support on your team debuffing enemies, so having crusher on Khan would be a bit inefficient. But TGT is far from ideal atm, so I applaud you for trying a khan that strays from the pack.

13igTyme
08-30-2015, 08:03 AM
Khan does seem like a decent champ to be running crusher. The only problem is that I think it is better served on a ranged champion, which is why I chose xavilla. Although, the crusher debuff followed up by salvage strike sounds painful. And because it is khan, you can skip girded and run speed drain or heavy suit. Sounds like a pretty decent utility build, IMO.

In my ideal vision of TGT, you would already have a support on your team debuffing enemies, so having crusher on Khan would be a bit inefficient. But TGT is far from ideal atm, so I applaud you for trying a khan that strays from the pack.

Why use Xavilla? She's a dps. I'd imagine her basic attack barely does below 75 damage.

J_MTN
08-30-2015, 08:19 AM
Why use Xavilla? She's a dps. I'd imagine her basic attack barely does below 75 damage.

True, I had to use two sports drinks to bring her AD down enough. But there are many reasons.

1) I originally thought the splash damage from her basic attack may spread the crusher debuff.
2) Spamming her lantern strike on an enemy that has been debuffed with crusher is effective.
3) Her ability Totem Spirit has a nice CC knock back and deals decent damage to debuffed enemies.
4) Spirit Dance allows me to escape slows.
5) I wanted a champion that could deal a good amount skill damage(to take advantage of crusher), but still be effective in the support role. Xavilla seemed like a good fit.

If you're asking, why didn't I use ace?

The answer is simple:
I wanted more damage. Sure, Ace's CC is far superior, but Xavilla just deals more damage with her skills. I think I would run Ace with something other than crusher, anyway.

13igTyme
08-30-2015, 08:26 AM
True, I had to use two sports drinks to bring her AD down enough. But there are many reasons.

1) I originally thought the splash damage from her basic attack may spread the crusher debuff.
2) Spamming her lantern strike on an enemy that has been debuffed with crusher is effective.
3) Her ability Totem Spirit has a nice CC knock back and deals decent damage to debuffed enemies.
4) Spirit Dance allows me to escape slows.
5) I wanted a champion that could deal a good amount skill damage(to take advantage of crusher), but still be effective in the support role. Xavilla seemed like a good fit.

If you're asking, why didn't I use ace?

The answer is simple:
I wanted more damage. Sure, Ace's CC is far superior, but Xavilla just deals more damage with her skills. I think I would run Ace with something other than crusher, anyway.

With crusher it's not a matter of using a support character is all about how much basic attack damage you deal.

J_MTN
08-30-2015, 09:06 AM
Perhaps I didn't phrase my post well. The idea behind using Crusher on Xavilla is to make her a better support character by giving her a debuff. To augment both her and her team's effectiveness in combat. I have a comprehensive build already made if you'd like more explanation. It's on the TGT wiki at the bottom of Xavilla's champion page.

13igTyme
08-30-2015, 01:09 PM
Perhaps I didn't phrase my post well. The idea behind using Crusher on Xavilla is to make her a better support character by giving her a debuff. To augment both her and her team's effectiveness in combat. I have a comprehensive build already made if you'd like more explanation. It's on the TGT wiki at the bottom of Xavilla's champion page.

No I understand, I just think your better off using a different badge and let the support characters, who are doing less damage anyway, debuff.

J_MTN
08-30-2015, 01:52 PM
No I understand, I just think your better off using a different badge and let the support characters, who are doing less damage anyway, debuff.

Well, I think a good support character should be able to deal good amounts of damage along with providing debuffs and CC. Especially in this game where it doesn't exactly matter who gets the kills. Besides, who's to say Xavilla isn't a support character? Kiz gives her 4/5 in the support category. I'd have to agree with that.